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   Professor Marshak suggested that I study this problem and continued his    generous help in discussing my findings and supplying some answers to    questions. After about six months of intense study of the empirical data two    things became clear to me. First, there was no beta interaction consistent       with all the data; and therefore some carefully done experiments should be       wrong.

   Second, the only possibility of a universal Fermi interaction lay in having an       axial vector component in beta decay. The details on the beta decay angular    correlation's could be consistent with a scalar-tensor or a vector-axial vector    structure. With these, Marshak and I had all the necessary results of the       Universal V-A interaction by the time of the Rochester Conference in 1957.

   But I did not get a chance to present this discovery and had the strange       experience of listening helplessly to distinguished scientists puzzling over a       problem that I had solved already!

   That summer, Marshak was at RAND Corporation in Santa Monica; so I spent a    month in Los Angeles. By this time the work was done but not publicly       presented. One day in June, Marshak arranged a lunch with Murray Gell-Mann,    Leona Marshall, Ronald Bryan, AH Wapstra and others at a Santa Monica       restaurant. I was asked to give a report on our work on weak interactions       beginning with a survey of the crucial experimental results, the clear evidence    of inconsistency amongst them and our resolution of the puzzling situation and    the hypothesis of the universal Fermi interaction of the V-A form with left       chiral fields.

   Wapstra added some comments on the status of some experiments. Gell-Mann    was very appreciative of the presentation and gave his blessings. I had also       mentioned that the choice of the interaction that Marshak and I made    required   four crucial experiments to be wrong. Some of these were done by,    or under   the supervision of people like CS Wu and Herbert Anderson. These    included the   angular correlation in He%$^b$ beta decay, the sign of the    Muon polarization,   the decay of oriented neutrons and the branching ratio in    pion decay into the   electron-neutrino mode.

   We suggested that these experiments be redone. To our gratification they       were all done with the reversal of the wrong predictions within the year, so       that the 1958 ``Rochester Conference" at CERN (to which I was not invited)    recognized that the chiral V-A interaction was correct for all the classic weak    interactions. Professor Marshak was to attend the Conference on Mesons and    Newly Discovered Particles in Padua-Venice in 1957 September. He asked me    to compile a joint paper on the V-A interaction; this was done in June and    was titled ``The Nature of the Four-Fermion Interaction". I left it with    Marshak, who got it typed in Rochester and presented it at the Conference.    He was satisfied that this presentation and the preprint dated 16 September    1957 (my 26th birthday!) was tantamount to publication.

   I went that September to join Julian Schwinger at Harvard as a postdoctoral       fellow. Nobody there in the theory group knew anything about the       developments in weak interaction, nor did they care. But Sheldon Glashow told    me about a manuscript written by Murray Gell-Mann and Richard Feynman       postulating a V-A form for beta decay that was submitted to the Physical       Review.

   I called Professor Marshak on the phone, but he assured me that our priority       was protected by the Rochester preprint and by the conference presentation.    That was a mistake since most people would not acknowledge having seen or    heard of our work (including the late J.J.Sakurai who got the preprint and a       private presentation by Marshak in the latter's office in Rochester).

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